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Day 1

I’ve been invited by @mikako6 to share one image (no posters, no titles, no explanations) from 10 films that impacted me.

The premise is that every day a new person will be added: 10 days, 10 movie images, 10 friends.

I'll tag @HistoPol (feel free to ignore if not interested or already tagged)

#TenDaysTenFilmsTenFriends

in reply to Mina

I didn't know Peter Sellers, but he is very stylish and nice. 😊❤️

Thank you all for joining me in this game!
And nice to meet you.
(*´︶`*)ノ✨✨

in reply to mikako.num

In the film "Doctor Strangelove and …" (1964), Peter Seller plays three roles: A British officer at a US military base, trying to avoid the third world war, the US president and Dr. Strangelove, the scientific Adviser to the president.

In the short video below (1m50s - I added subtitles) we see the outline of what "longtermists" like Elon Musk mean, when they talk about "taking humanity into space" and "preserve the human species".

@si_irini @pmj @HistoPol

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in reply to Mina

I love that movie. I also loved a very similar movie, Failsafe (Henry Fonda as the US President), which was released around the same. I had heard -- and I don't know how true this is -- that both movies were in post-production at the same time when each discovered that the other was being made. They came to an agreement, therefore, that Dr. Strangelove and ... would be released first for fear that audiences would think it was an intentional parody of Failsafe, when they were made independently of each other.

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in reply to Mina

I've always wondered who Musk reminds me of. Guess it's time to rewatch that movie.
in reply to Yeekasoose

😄
And I have to watch that movie!
Maybe Elmo watched it too and than dreamed of his future….for us…all…

@mina @mikako6 @pmj @HistoPol

in reply to Mina

You two are 100% correct.
#Elmo and the other tech mogul #SciFi nerds from their high-school and college days are actually trying to realize part of these novels within their framework of beliefs, e.g. #Longtermism.
(If you listen to the two #TESCREAL interviews/podcasts* in my TL, it becomes clear.)

*
mastodon.social/@HistoPol/1105…

@Yeekasoose @mikako6 @pmj


Hi @adriandaub,

(1/n) #TESCREAL--the dangerous billionaires' philosophy

I listened to your fascinating interview (1) with #ThomasZimmer. (1)
Also, I had a brief look at your #Wikipedia entry.

When I read in the shownotes that this was about your book, which I haven't read, "What Tech Calls Thinking" is a lively dismantling of the ideas that form the intellectual..
(1)
Is This Democracy:
25. The Ideology of #SiliconValley vs the Idea of Democracy – with #AdrianDaub

i.sonnet.fm/RQFbqC2AHnRZ6jWY6


in reply to si_irini

Here it is:

mastodon.social/@HistoPol/1105…

@mina @Yeekasoose @mikako6 @pmj


Hi @adriandaub,

(1/n) #TESCREAL--the dangerous billionaires' philosophy

I listened to your fascinating interview (1) with #ThomasZimmer. (1)
Also, I had a brief look at your #Wikipedia entry.

When I read in the shownotes that this was about your book, which I haven't read, "What Tech Calls Thinking" is a lively dismantling of the ideas that form the intellectual..
(1)
Is This Democracy:
25. The Ideology of #SiliconValley vs the Idea of Democracy – with #AdrianDaub

i.sonnet.fm/RQFbqC2AHnRZ6jWY6


in reply to HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴

Hey! Some of us (then) teenage SciFi nerds read and watched the same stuff, but reached entirely different conclusions! Not all of us thought they were blue prints to follow. The various Torment Nexii (Nexusus?) were dystopias.

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in reply to Bruno Nicoletti

(1/2)

Yes, very true. For me, they were sort of like a "Second Life", a fictitious "alternate reality" of what could have been or might be if...but nothing that would materialize in my life time, maybe apart from a lunar base.

Never have I been so wrong in an overall assessment:

mastodon.social/@HistoPol/1107…

Where I erred, in particular, was the rise of #DarkTriad* billionaires like Elmo and...

*Very insightful article in #TheAtlantic yesterday:

@mina @si_irini @Yeekasoose @mikako6 @pmj

in reply to HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴

(2/2)

...#PeterThiel, who's seemingly plowing ahead to realize #PhilipKDick's #SecondVariety, despite, IMO, belonging to the #TESCREAL sects.

I should have thought more of the US' Robber Barrons of Industry of the #RoaringTwenties and earlier.
It was all there.

//

Source:

theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/…

NO PW:
archive.is/NjmrS

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in reply to HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴

What today's capitalism on steroids looks like, is pretty accurately described in the 1952(!) novel (series) "Space Merchants" by F. Pohl and C. M. Kornbluth.

They also predicted very accurately (in the 50s and 60s) the current #enshittification of technology in several short stories, and in the "March of the Morons" the dumbing down of modern civilization.

@bjn @si_irini @Yeekasoose @mikako6 @pmj

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in reply to Bruno Nicoletti

Same with me.
There are a lot of dystopias but there are things that are real now, computers for example, who could possibly believe that?

These guys see things for the future, that we don’t.
For good or worse…
I saw an interview with Gates, an old interview and he was talking about smartphones, decades before we saw the first smartphone.

@HistoPol @mina @Yeekasoose @mikako6 @pmj

in reply to Mina

@jwz Even though I know that movie in and out (and love it), this short clip really made my evening. Thank you!

Yes, this is exactly what those "longtermists" want. My argument usually is: "It is not about earth or environment, because neither earth nor the environment gives a damn about us. Earth will recover as it always did, and the environment will keep changing. It is about our own survival. And if we're not interested in investing in our survival, we can as well just kill ourselves now!"

@jwz
in reply to Mina

Yes, this is exactly it, except that #Longtermists want to take the human race into space, as it is its "destiny".

PS:
Loved the typos of "computers".
Fortunately, voice recognition is not yet infallible. 😉

@mikako6 @si_irini @pmj

in reply to si_irini

To be honest, I just typed down, but lazy as I am, I didn't check for spelling mistakes, once I was done.

@HistoPol @mikako6 @pmj

in reply to Mina

(1/2)
I'm not sure anymore if I've watched Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb.

Funny thing is, not having heard of it for more than a decade, you're now the 2nd person to recommend it in only 6 months. 😉

What is absolutely not funny, is that an influential key Longtermist strategist is now openly contemplating and propagating nuclear war as a fall-back strategy to avoid an AGI singularity from happening before Elmo can send of his arc to...

@mikako6

in reply to HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴

(2/2)

...to fulfill humankind's destiny in space.

I'm not directly providing the link to a long insider article, as it is very deeply troubling and should be read only when not suffering from depression, etc.

They would literally kill 3 billion people to safeguard their vision coming true.

It is one of the things I wish I could "unread" and forget (2nd link), as almost all of us will not be able to do anything against it:

mastodon.social/@HistoPol/1110…


Strange, I cannot see the two posts with link in the timeline anymore:

- TESCREAL (basics/philosophy): mastodon.social/@HistoPol/1110…

-TESCREAL insider perspective/how far they would go:

dair-community.social/@timnitG…


This entry was edited (11 months ago)